tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post8540715582005575111..comments2023-04-24T08:27:42.455-07:00Comments on Siclista Blog: Siclista Rides (under construction)Rodgehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05040341396625605483noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-24427235651325320892008-01-31T10:51:00.000-08:002008-01-31T10:51:00.000-08:00I'm getting drowned with all the info and suggesti...I'm getting drowned with all the info and suggestions coming in :) LOL<BR/><BR/>BobbyG, how far south should we start?<BR/>Southern most part of Fremont is either REI/Home Depot by Automall or Longs/Albertsons by Mission. The Golfland in Milpitas looks like a good staging area.Jack Ibagbaga (also known as) Batilloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00260808192161152794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-67277668527316144872008-01-30T18:14:00.000-08:002008-01-30T18:14:00.000-08:00Hi Niel,That shouldn't stop ya from experiencing e...Hi Niel,<BR/><BR/>That shouldn't stop ya from experiencing everything :P. Well anyways yeah Welch is tough enough where for some walking in some sections might be faster than biking or might be the only option LOL. If ya have a triple then shouldn't be as much of an issue but will still be tough on the legs and lungs. Definately a hallmark climb in your mountain list if ya can finish it so it is definalely something to shoot for. If for anything you might want to at least climb the first portions of it to get an idea or even take a drive over there. From what I remember, at mile 1.75 five it really kicks up and probably averages around 16-19% for 3 tenths of a mile with not a foot of break. Once you turn the first bend and look up it is demoralizing to see the length of steepness in front of ya. <BR/><BR/>Ride on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-83668764689662426092008-01-30T17:07:00.000-08:002008-01-30T17:07:00.000-08:00Looks like JB got most of the routes laid out. On...Looks like JB got most of the routes laid out. Only suggestion I have is to spread out the start locations. Have some up north and some south.BobbyGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07023741235664339076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-90505612688594656942008-01-30T16:03:00.000-08:002008-01-30T16:03:00.000-08:00Dang...being a noobie to road riding, I thought al...Dang...being a noobie to road riding, I thought all I have to do is pedal as hard as I can until I reach the summit then let go of the brakes and enjoy...he he... I have more to learn, thanks to you guys....NielSiNielitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11930364836022279872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-85141943566566547552008-01-29T16:35:00.000-08:002008-01-29T16:35:00.000-08:00well put, mr. johnnyB..you've pretty much tailored...well put, mr. johnnyB..you've pretty much tailored a training program for myself and jack, the key words being cadence, form and intervals!! thanks also for validating the precursor to all this which is the basebuilding portion..here's also hoping 4 nice biking weather!Manny D (www.stophhs.com)https://www.blogger.com/profile/10817122183264325620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-84707022745048531612008-01-29T12:16:00.000-08:002008-01-29T12:16:00.000-08:00I would also suggest to consider higher cadence cl...I would also suggest to consider higher cadence climbing to save your legs for a long haul such as the Death Ride. With that it is still early in the season to make adjustments in your pedalling technique and approach. Try upping your cadence in every type of ride you do and perhaps maybe even do some spinning intervals to help smoothen out the stroke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-17875557171210898592008-01-29T12:09:00.000-08:002008-01-29T12:09:00.000-08:00Jack - I hope that I didn't discourage you. You g...Jack - I hope that I didn't discourage you. You gotta at least give it a try once. <BR/><BR/>Also remember that all the passes (after the first) are optional and a 3 pass target is a well reasonable accomplishment in itself. When you've completed 3 passes and you still have mental gusto then you can go onto the 4th and same with the 5th. Basically you can drop off at any point because the stop point at Turtle Rock is at the center of all the passes. <BR/><BR/>Manny - work on speed too on the flats with some intervals and long hard time trial type of sessions. Do these type of intervals 2x per week. This will obviously help your speed but also raise your anaerobic threshold and also raise your ability to work at high threshold. You can work these on flats or on light climbs like calaveras sunol coming from the Sunol Park side. But of course get some decent base miles first before the real strenuous stuff.<BR/><BR/>Saying doing intervals is hard to do on your own so maybe you and Jack can ride and push each other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-82179261375186832432008-01-29T11:51:00.000-08:002008-01-29T11:51:00.000-08:00johhnyB welcome back to the board..my my all these...johhnyB welcome back to the board..my my all these tuf climbs w/c as u mentioned in passing are probably better suited to the in-season timeframe...any suggstions for LSD rides..jack we could probably do variations of the mission-grimmer (i.e., reverse) or extend it out to milpitas (something to build the base miles)..4 the deathride i only registered myself (shoud've done 4 2 riders:-(, tend to agree w johnny on using diablo or hamilton (one of my ride colleagues does diablo 3x, up and down to simulate the death ride or least 3 passes thereof)..so 4 now as a suggestions (feb timeframe) let's do some base building w more "tame" but long rides, starting march we can phase in the tougher climbs.."death ride" is still in july so we have time..;-)Manny D (www.stophhs.com)https://www.blogger.com/profile/10817122183264325620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-13413563067554975322008-01-29T10:47:00.000-08:002008-01-29T10:47:00.000-08:00I'm not sure if I'm going yet but I put in 3 tix f...I'm not sure if I'm going yet but I put in 3 tix for the drawing. Manny mentioned he reg'd too but not sure for how many riders.Jack Ibagbaga (also known as) Batilloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00260808192161152794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-28845662676519401162008-01-29T08:45:00.000-08:002008-01-29T08:45:00.000-08:00Jack,On the Death Ride training route I would sugg...Jack,<BR/><BR/>On the Death Ride training route I would suggest just doing multiple sections of it at a time rather than the whole thing. Work up to perhaps around a 90 mile route as your target. <BR/><BR/>In hindsight, actually I would recommend long climbs rather than the short ones because all of the climbs on the deathride are all of the long type from 7-10 mile climbs (ugghhh). So essentially you'll need to tune in your body and riding approach to long rides rather than the tough short ones in which most of the climbs in this route i gave are. I would think a climb like hamilton or diablo are better suited as training climbs for the deathride so maybe you can do these in some multiple as your training target. <BR/><BR/>Bob is also doing the Deathride this year. Besides you who else is in? I'll be rooting you guys from the sideline this time :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-73719431851323832312008-01-28T10:59:00.000-08:002008-01-28T10:59:00.000-08:00OK here are some ride suggestions:---------Palo Al...OK here are some ride suggestions:<BR/><BR/>---------<BR/>Palo Alto/SM: 92 > Canada > Kings Mt > OLH <BR/><BR/>38 miles with ~ 3500-4000ft climbing <BR/><BR/>http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/46474<BR/><BR/>--------<BR/>Palo Alto/SM: Edgewood > OLH > Hi 1 > Tunitas Creek Loop<BR/><BR/>I like this ride. 44 Miles with 4500 ft of climbing.<BR/><BR/>http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Edgwood-Old-La-Honda-Hi-1-Tunitas-Creek-Loop<BR/><BR/>--------<BR/>Palo Alto/SM: 92 > OLH > Backside of OLH to 84and back up > Skyline > Down Kings Mt <BR/><BR/>42 Miles with approximate 2000 ft of climbing<BR/><BR/>http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/39634<BR/><BR/>--------<BR/>Milpitas/Fremont: Old Calaveras > Calaveras > Sunol > Welch Creek > Return via Calaveras > Felter Road > Return <BR/><BR/>50 miles with 6500ft of climbing<BR/><BR/>http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/31946<BR/><BR/>--------<BR/>Milpitas/Fremont: Sierra > Sunol > Foothill Loop<BR/><BR/>60 miles with 4500ft of climbing<BR/><BR/>http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/28568<BR/><BR/>--------<BR/>Milpitas/Fremont: Calaveras > Sunol > Palomares <BR/><BR/>42 miles with 3700ft of climbing. This route is one way only. Short way home is to go down niles and back to start or if you are training for a century you go back the same way you came.<BR/><BR/>http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/25017<BR/><BR/>--------<BR/>This was mentioned already and shouldn't be done til midseason form: Sierra > Calaveras > Sunol > Welch Creek <BR/><BR/>47 Miles with 6500ft of tough climbing.<BR/><BR/>http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Sierra-Road-Calaveras-Wall-Sunol-Welch-Creek-Loop<BR/><BR/>--------<BR/>Alum Rock Park > Hamilton <BR/><BR/>44 miles http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/44-mile-loop-Alum-Rock-Mount-Hamilton-Loop<BR/><BR/>--------<BR/>Milpitas > Calaveras > Felter > Alum Rock > Crothers<BR/><BR/>31.5 miles with 3700 ft of climbing<BR/><BR/>http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Calaveras-Felter-Alum-Rock-Crothers <BR/><BR/>After Crothers you can continue up Hamilton Road as an option.<BR/><BR/>--------<BR/>Palo Alto: Edgewood Road > OLH > Alpine > Joaquin Loop <BR/><BR/>33.6 miles with 3700ft of climbing<BR/><BR/>http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/35623<BR/><BR/>--------<BR/>Palo Alto: 92 > Canada > OLH > Alpine > Junipero > Arastadero > Sand Hill Loop <BR/><BR/>55.4 miles with 4165ft of climbing<BR/><BR/>http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Highway-92-Canada-Woodside-Old-La-Honda-Alpine-Loop<BR/><BR/>--------<BR/>and for you crazy riders doing the Death Rider this year here is something to shoot for :P<BR/><BR/>125 miles with 13000 feet of climbing. <BR/><BR/>http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/43435Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-54348530433434500602008-01-28T10:49:00.000-08:002008-01-28T10:49:00.000-08:00JB, I was reluctant to add all your bikely maps, u...JB, I was reluctant to add all your bikely maps, until I get your okay, I will populate the list with your maps for sure. <BR/>Welch Creek? ughhh... talk to Niel :) :) :)Jack Ibagbaga (also known as) Batilloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00260808192161152794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-90099008089529292582008-01-28T10:11:00.000-08:002008-01-28T10:11:00.000-08:00With all this talk about hills you guys are making...With all this talk about hills you guys are making me start to think that all the holiday baggage I put on is gonna hurt me badly. I gained over 10lbs since the Death Ride last July.<BR/><BR/>Good stuff to look forward to so now I'm a little more motivated to get some saddle time. Now only if the weather will cooperate :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-31089006710156090982008-01-28T10:07:00.000-08:002008-01-28T10:07:00.000-08:00Wow - you guys are going to climb Welch Creek Road...Wow - you guys are going to climb Welch Creek Road? When? That is surely one tough mama that is sure to burn you up even in the tough cold weather out there. Freshly paved though so that is a very good thing.<BR/><BR/>I have a bunch of bikely routes already and may be able to help out there. Would it make sense to put the compiled route list on our website after all is said and done?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-30304086191695603992008-01-27T16:01:00.000-08:002008-01-27T16:01:00.000-08:00Niel, looks like Johnnyboy got that mapped out alr...Niel, looks like Johnnyboy got that mapped out already But it starts by the GolfLand in Milpitas. 680/Jacklin. I'll add that to the list.Jack Ibagbaga (also known as) Batilloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00260808192161152794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-4899420215902711812008-01-27T14:49:00.000-08:002008-01-27T14:49:00.000-08:00Hi guys,How about including this ride in the HILL ...Hi guys,<BR/><BR/><BR/>How about including this ride in the HILL schedule:<BR/><BR/>Start in Milpitas (starbucks in Park Victoria), then Calaveras to Piedmont, up Sierra Road, down to Calaveras, forward to Sunol, up Welch road, back to Calaveras and Milpitas.<BR/><BR/>46m. with two big hills.<BR/><BR/>Here's a link from MTBR with the hill profile.<BR/><BR/>http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=3793937#poststop<BR/><BR/><BR/>NielSiNielitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11930364836022279872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-26996584108200668162008-01-27T14:47:00.000-08:002008-01-27T14:47:00.000-08:00Jack Ride 2 from willow turn left on Laurel (by p...Jack Ride 2 from willow turn left on Laurel (by park restroom) next left on Glenwood-Valparaiso to Alameda. Simplier route & we can use the restroom. If this can help. ThanksRodgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05040341396625605483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-25075096150486788382008-01-27T11:43:00.000-08:002008-01-27T11:43:00.000-08:00Manny, I'm out of flat rides. Do you have any flat...Manny, I'm out of flat rides. Do you have any flat routes that I can add? <BR/><BR/>Rodge, No worries. Even if it takes 3months or 1year to do this list, I think we can use it even if its under construction. We'll just keep adding routes to the list. But of course, I'm going to need input from the group :)Jack Ibagbaga (also known as) Batilloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00260808192161152794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-119169285160218002008-01-26T21:35:00.000-08:002008-01-26T21:35:00.000-08:00Jack, Puede paki palitan mo yong Ride #5 kasi pare...Jack, Puede paki palitan mo yong Ride #5 kasi pareho lang ng Calaveras Palomares Loop gawin mo na lang Meet Alvarado Niles Train Station Niles Canyon, Sunol, Calaveras, Evans, Jacklin, Warm Spring, Warren, Mission Blvd. Para magkaiba Thanks. Too much work pasensiya ka na. we appreciate it.Rodgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05040341396625605483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-66613890615133601252008-01-25T12:26:00.000-08:002008-01-25T12:26:00.000-08:00jack, another added suggestion (your todo list is ...jack, another added suggestion (your todo list is getting bigger:-) add a couple more flat rides to the list. as of now the paseo-grimmer ride is the only flat ride, with the current weather conditions being more conducive to non-hilly rides a tad more variety on the flat type rides would do us wonders on these damp, cold days..Manny D (www.stophhs.com)https://www.blogger.com/profile/10817122183264325620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-82301890764612532142008-01-25T10:00:00.000-08:002008-01-25T10:00:00.000-08:00keep those suggestions coming guys.this is going t...keep those suggestions coming guys.<BR/>this is going to be one heck of a project but with everyones help, we can put up a nice list. <BR/>there are a lot of rides that I wanted to add but I am not too familiar with the routes, ie: JohnV's Livermore rides(all of them, puro masarap na masakit pag naghatawan na), TonyL's route with that brute Skyline and so on. It'll be a "work in progress" kinda thing. I'll pick everyones brains next time we get together for sure to get this list going. BobbyG and Johnnyboy, do you guys have a .tcx to gpx. converter by any chance? It'll make adding routes to this list easier if the route has been ridden before with those g305 computers :)Jack Ibagbaga (also known as) Batilloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00260808192161152794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691012013443708759.post-18030496245456484062008-01-25T09:00:00.000-08:002008-01-25T09:00:00.000-08:00lookin' very nice jack..nice job! may i suggest on...lookin' very nice jack..nice job! may i suggest one small footnote attached to the list saying that rain cancels ride..i take it also that on damp days (based on forecasts, weather conditions like prior day rain) a scheduled hilly ride for that week can be pre-empted by a flat ride..this sunday we lucked out since the paseo-cushing-grimmer ride (siclista ride #4) is scheduled w/c is a flat ride. as a scenario as per your previous note a "weather-watcher" can check out the forecast for that week and if rain falls on the prior day (saturday before the sunday ride), he or she can post his or her flat ride, or choose from your boilerplate list pre-empting a scheduled hilly ride for that sunday..just another jolly(bee) suggestion;-), thnx jackManny D (www.stophhs.com)https://www.blogger.com/profile/10817122183264325620noreply@blogger.com